Caleb ref pics?

Thin Red Paste · Post by **Thin Red Paste** » Fri Oct 22, 2004 10:08 pm

hey all, does anyone have any good pictures or drawings of Caleb? I've made a model of Caleb for a half life mod (the specialists), but its lacking a skin, and skinners are asking me for reference pics. I dont have any; I was going essentially from memory, you see. I put a temporary skin on the model just so i could use it in the game, here's a picture of it with that (outdated: I've since realized he doesnt have that drover cape thing and removed it, and fixed the boots):

and before you start screeching about him looking like a teenager, thats not the final skin, just a temporary pile i put on him so i could play as him in game. he's going to be a lot older, dirtier, and creepier looking.

Daedalus · Post by **Daedalus** » Fri Oct 22, 2004 10:51 pm

Looking good! But Caleb doesn't have pupils!

Thin Red Paste · Post by **Thin Red Paste** » Fri Oct 22, 2004 10:56 pm

no, no he doesnt. thats a strand of hair hanging over his face.

Daedalus · Post by **Daedalus** » Fri Oct 22, 2004 11:24 pm

lol! My bad

I Live...AGAIN · Post by **I Live...AGAIN** » Sat Oct 23, 2004 02:59 am

I don't know if this will help but here is the actual skin used in B2....

Also, could you post some more info on this MOD of yours?

Guest · Post by **Guest** » Sat Oct 23, 2004 09:15 am

well, its a half-life mod called the specialists. Not my mod, I just play it. the mod itself has nothing to do with blood at all, I'm just making a Caleb model for it. Its more of a john woo kind of thing, like action half-life or the opera, only, imo, done a lot better. The main advantage it has over those two in terms of control is that the diving works like max payne: you can actually turn and aim (theres even a slow mo powerup). Its kind of an amalgamation of all the popular movies. Theres an obvious matrix inspiration in some of the things, but its not a matrix mod. Feels more like Hard Boiled. The visuals are among the best of half-life mods, especially with the custom models. Some of the best custom models I've seen have been for the specialists. the customization scene is mainly comprised of fan models from essentially every action anything ever. Matrix models, pulp fiction models, john woo flick models, various anime models, game models, etc. not really that many original characters tho. Theres a pretty indepth (for a fps) kung fu system in place, too. even includes blocking.

Thin Red Paste · Post by **Thin Red Paste** » Sat Oct 23, 2004 10:46 am

oh my, forgot to log in there.

Thin Red Paste · Post by **Thin Red Paste** » Sat Oct 23, 2004 06:23 pm

still not the real skin (gonna have a totally new one someday) but i hacked pieces of the b2 skin on the model:

Scareh

Post by **DustyStyx** » Sat Oct 23, 2004 07:01 pm

How would he look without the hair?

Thin Red Paste · Post by **Thin Red Paste** » Sat Oct 23, 2004 09:05 pm

foolish.

Post by **DustyStyx** » Sun Oct 24, 2004 08:50 pm

I suggest it because Caleb dosen't have hair in Blood1. If your going for the Blood2 box art look, I'd still remodel and get rid of the duster and most of the hair. That is, replace the duster with a trenchcoat. I know there's not a whole lot of difference, but it's noticeable.

Your upper arms are way to thin, he's not a mussel man but he's far from being a pussy trying to look like a badass in a duster. I don't know, may be it's the flared out sleeves.

Post by **DustyStyx** » Sun Oct 24, 2004 09:13 pm

Blood1 pics

Blood2 pics

Thin Red Paste · Post by **Thin Red Paste** » Mon Oct 25, 2004 12:30 am

liar! what makes you lie!?
your first pic is one of the craptacular renders of some s*** model from the promo, missing his hat, and the second has shadow cast over too much of the head to tell if he has hair or not (and seems to be incorrect; he has blue denim pants in the copy of blood I have).
Besides, He definitely doesn't look right bald. When I think Caleb, I think "Long, scraggly hair and loads upon loads of badass"
And as for duster vs trench, I already got rid of the duster drover cape thing. thats about the only difference.
the upper arms are just kind of deformed by the animation there, they usually look bigger.
As for anything else, I claim artistic license.

Daedalus · Post by **Daedalus** » Mon Oct 25, 2004 12:58 am

What?!? s*** model?!?! HERESY!!!! Denim pants? Nay, say I!

What trickery is this?

Thin Red Paste · Post by **Thin Red Paste** » Mon Oct 25, 2004 01:28 am

I tell you, he has denim pants in my copy of blood. its the whole shibang, too; one pack whole blood.

and the model that cruaich posted is far from good, even for that age.