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Black spiders?

Post by Guest » Fri Oct 26, 2007 09:05 am

Sorry for my poor english, and for flooding the forum with this stupid question, but i can't sleep until i know the true.
The enemies list in the postmorten says that there are red, green and black spiders.
But i think i never saw those black ones. I remeber the small red ones, the bigger green spiders, and Shial.
There's really any black spider in the game retail levels? Where i can find then?
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Post by sadist_329 » Fri Oct 26, 2007 09:48 am

There are about 2 or 3 black spiders in the game .
But they appear much later , only in the 4th episode i think .

They are huge just like Shial but just a tiny bit smaller and much easier to kill . Their bites can blind you and they can survive in water but they usually just produce red & green spiders which come after you (just like Shial).
As for the place there's one in Crystal lake and in Breeding grounds in 'Dead Reckoning'.

Good luck with the game .
Keep faith in Blood.
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Post by Gila » Fri Oct 26, 2007 12:03 pm

there is no black spiders in the game at all.

the only surviving in water spider is shial.

only shial breeds green and red ones.

red ones give delirium effect.

green ones who blind you.


the black spiders were intended to be included but it's one of the things that got cut out, like huge mother pod plant, beast mode, 3 types of flare ammo, etc, etc, etc.
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Post by Ra_Ra_Gazaa » Fri Oct 26, 2007 11:09 pm

Shail is light grey, right?

The black spider probably got replaced by the red and green ones... Was the black spider in the alpha version?

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Post by Gila » Fri Oct 26, 2007 11:31 pm

don't remember. i remember seeing some old screenshots where the spiders were crawling on the ceiling and one screen where a big black spider (same gfx as shial) was coming down from a web string kinda thingy.

oh and spiders were probably supposed to have an ability to jump on player's face a la the severed hand, though this is conjecture based on some spider sprites in the art files.

so many stuff was cut...

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Post by sadist_329 » Sat Oct 27, 2007 10:53 am

No No No , i'm talking about Blood without Plasma Pak .
The only Shial can be found in Episode 2 ending and in Episode 4 ending.
All other light grey ones are the so called 'Black Spiders'.

Just like that , all other stone gargoyles are not Cheogh , who can only be found in Episode 1 ending and Episode 4 ending .
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Post by Gila » Sat Oct 27, 2007 12:59 pm

yes they are cheoghs and shials.

just like you'll meet battlelord several times in duke nukem 3d after the first episode boss battle. the same way you will meet serpent god and huge sumo wrestler in shadow warrior 3d.

the same way you fight barons of hell in episode1 of doom1 and later you'll meet tons of them.

it was a common practice in the FPS those days.
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Post by sadist_329 » Sat Oct 27, 2007 06:40 pm

Aw shucks sorry guys , Gila has better knowledge than me . :banghead:

Those ARE Shials and not black spiders. I guess black spiders can only be found in Plasma Pak.
Hell yes i remember Hell Barons ,stupid things! (i couldn't defeat even 1 without cheats)
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Post by Vuzeth » Sat Oct 27, 2007 08:11 pm

sadist_329 wrote:I guess black spiders can only be found in Plasma Pak.
Once again you get it all wrong. Black Spiders were scheduled in early development stage but never added in any of retail levels. :|
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Post by Gila » Sat Oct 27, 2007 09:26 pm

yeah. there aren't any in plasma pack.

plasma pack did bring some stuff originally planned for the game, like the couple of levels were even in the alpha version!
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Post by sadist_329 » Sun Oct 28, 2007 06:27 am

What !!! what's all this alpha ,beta and retail versions that i keep hearing about ??? :?:
Are they different from the Original blood ?
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Post by Slink » Sun Oct 28, 2007 07:14 am

Alpha or beta are pre-release versions of any software.
Blood's pre-release stuff had bugs, incompatibilities, left-out features, or unwanted features.

Retail version is the "original version" of which you speak.
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Post by mouth » Mon Oct 29, 2007 07:10 pm

Shial in water = CREEPY
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Post by wangho » Mon Oct 29, 2007 07:50 pm

speaking of the Alpha, does anyone know how to map your own keyboard controls for it? I just want to be able to strafe back and forth
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Post by Gila » Tue Oct 30, 2007 08:42 am

i think you can only strafe left and right... :)
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