Transfusion: a Repurposing

DustyStyx · Posted: Wed Mar 10, 2010 03:21 pm Post subject: Transfusion: a Repurposing

I'd like to propose a re-purposing of Transfusion.

Initially Transfusion started as an effort to ensure that some form of Blood could run on modern and future computers. With the coming of DOSBox, the initial purpose of Transfusion has become moot and I would argue, no longer necessary.

This brings up the question: "What's the point?"

The Transfusion team and community have always wanted to see Blood brought into the modern era of computer gaming technologies. An ambitious goal that has never truly been realized. However if we acknowledge that replicating Blood as it was presented on the Build engine, is no longer necessary, we can skip directly to this secondary goal of providing high-rez materials to the Blood community.

I would encourage a discourse of proposed actions. I have some of my own ideas that I will field later in the thread. Please be courteous towards proposed ideas. If you disagree with proposal in this thread, please limit your response to "I disagree with [statement X]"

Edit: Apparently the polling option is BROKEN! Please respond with either

Yea: Transfusion should move on.
Nay: Finish replicating Blood.

I will lock this thread after 30 days.

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Hopefully this might help clarify the proposal.

A re-purposing would mean a shift from "Replicate Blood" as our primary goal, to a goal of supporting community efforts in story telling.

In truth, the main goal of the Transfusion trunk would still be to replicate Blood. But in so far as the community expectations go it's my opinion that we should be honest and just say: “Not in the foreseeable future. But enough about us, how can we help you?”

Basically we would be saying:
This is pretty much all we are going to actively do with Transfusion. If you have an idea for a story, feel free to use Transfusion to make it happen. In the likely event that you need something from Blood or Blood II added to the Transfusion trunk, or if you feel something could have been done better, we can help make it possible for you, as well as maybe help out with other parts of your mod (depending on the individual developer's preference). Subsequently, the replicated Blood components would then be added to future releases of the trunk, probably along side the story branch it supports.

If we eventually reach the elusive goal of “Replicate Blood” along the way, all the better. But why limit ourselves?

leileilol · o^_^o Joined: 10 Sep 2004 Posts: 548

Nay: Finish replicating Blood.

It's the only project with the granted rights to do so respectfully, and it still could be pulled off in a modern fashion (code/interface-wise mainly). Besides, it's near impossible to record multiplayer demos in Blood and yes that has something to do with the nay.
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Tchernobog · Posted: Wed Mar 10, 2010 05:45 pm Post subject:

Nay: Finish replicating Blood.

I like the Transfusion project as it is, a stand-alone multi-platform 3D Blood game. I see very little reason to change goals now, especially considering, as leileilol so kindly pointed out, this is the only project legally aloud to recreate Blood. The train that reaches the station the fastest is the one that stays on track.

Additional: What is exactly meant by "providing high-rez materials to the Blood community" anyway? Could you please elaborate Dusty?
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DustyStyx · Posted: Wed Mar 10, 2010 07:02 pm Post subject:

Tchernobog, it goes back to the design decision if our materials should be "true to Blood" replications, or if artistic leniency should be applied allowing the focus to be directed to new materials.

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Dusty:

I Live...AGAIN · Posted: Thu Mar 11, 2010 01:31 am Post subject:

Undecided

What an excellent question Chris!

For a long time this question was in the back of my mind but now that this crossroads is finally here and we really have to think about it, I can honestly say that I cant come up with a good idea of where to go from here ATM.

However, having an open discussion about this topic is a great idea and long overdue.

Elric · Posted: Thu Mar 11, 2010 04:24 pm Post subject:

I'm afraid you won't get anywhere with this pool. Even if 90% of the people on this forum want to continue that way, if the only 3 or 4 guys that are actually committed to do some work for this project right now want to change direction, go for it.

I think my opinion on this subject is already well known, since, unfortunately, we already discussed this before, over and over again Razz

DustyStyx · Posted: Thu Mar 11, 2010 04:27 pm Post subject:

Yea: Transfusion should move on.

Elric · Posted: Thu Mar 11, 2010 07:14 pm Post subject:

I Live...AGAIN · Posted: Sat Mar 13, 2010 01:53 am Post subject:

The best thing about threads like this are when old friends come back!

HI Mathieu!!

Elric · Posted: Sat Mar 13, 2010 07:30 am Post subject:

Wrim · Axe Zombie Joined: 25 Jul 2005 Posts: 49 Location: Sweden

I haven't been contributing to this site (or the project) much, but I've still been coming back every now and then cause, to me, this has always been the main site for Blood-fanatics and blood-related activities.

I don't really care what you decide as long as the people who're still passionate about Blood stick around.

I Live...AGAIN · Posted: Sun Mar 14, 2010 06:12 pm Post subject:

Well said Wrim.

Also, you still have the best profile gif on the planet.

Tchernobog · Posted: Thu Mar 18, 2010 06:06 pm Post subject:

Ransu · Posted: Sun Mar 21, 2010 07:40 pm Post subject:

Nay: Finish replicating Blood.

I think it could use a more up to date game engine though. From what I have read, id Tech 4's source code will be released by sometime this year and I'm sure that would be a great game engine to recreate Blood on with it's atmospheric graphics properties especially the lighting and shadows. I'm not sure how easy it would be to make a total conversion on the game engine, but I'm just making a suggestion. Smile

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