Let's say that Blood 3 gets confirmed today

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Let's say that Blood 3 gets confirmed today

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What would your reaction be? Would you be jumping out of your fleshy hides or would you be upset that it's not a remake of Blood 1? Also, about how many new posters and topics do you think this place would get in response to this news?
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I'm sure whomever the developer would be would setup a space to handle a bulk of community traffic. I'm sure this place would have a nice increase as well. However, I highly doubt that any developer today would make a Blood 3 that even faintly resembled the original games. Sure you can repackage Caleb in new model form but a new game would be littered with save checkpoints, escort missions, weapon level and powerups, vehicle racing, cover fire, vanity DLC... and all other s*** ideas developers come up with nowadays.

Just look at Shadow Warrior. I actually think it was a somewhat decent game but it is absolutely nothing like the original game at all IMO. That is exactly what a Blood 3 would be.

I guess to answer your question, I would be somewhat interested to see what someone would come up with but I wouldn't have very high hopes at all that it would come close to being a great game.
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I Live...AGAIN wrote:I'm sure whomever the developer would be would setup a space to handle a bulk of community traffic. I'm sure this place would have a nice increase as well. However, I highly doubt that any developer today would make a Blood 3 that even faintly resembled the original games. Sure you can repackage Caleb in new model form but a new game would be littered with save checkpoints, escort missions, weapon level and powerups, vehicle racing, cover fire, vanity DLC... and all other s*** ideas developers come up with nowadays.

Just look at Shadow Warrior. I actually think it was a somewhat decent game but it is absolutely nothing like the original game at all IMO. That is exactly what a Blood 3 would be.

I guess to answer your question, I would be somewhat interested to see what someone would come up with but I wouldn't have very high hopes at all that it would come close to being a great game.
It's true that as time passes, people can forget about how a game was able to be successful in the first place and then give players something totally different. Sometimes it's a good thing and other times the following game resembles nothing like it's predecessor. I am of the cloth that believes a game doesn't always have to totally follow in a series' footsteps to the T to be successful. The people I've spoken with outside of the TF forum basically fall into two categories for Blood 3/a new Blood game in general: either they want it but are worried that there isn't a good dev out there to do it justice or they just think it would be pointless to make a new game for a franchisee that is pretty much dead along with risk making a bad product. A few people who loved the original SW actually love the new one. I guess it's a matter of how accepting you are of the way people make games now and the stuff they include in them. Now we have "Doom 4" and it looking pretty much the same as Doom 3, not particularly colorful and somewhat following in the horror-type genre that D3 had, it seems. There is also the matter that even if Blood 3 was in the hands of people who know the good points of both Blood titles, will they be able to secure Stephan Weyte's voice.

Just talking about Blood 3 can summon plenty of emotions to the average Bloodite. Sometimes disgust for how terribly handled the game series was with the source code and rights drama and then you have the optimistic hope that one day Caleb will have his day again. Everyone assumes we will never get a new entry ever again and I feel the same, but this dream is still nice to think about.
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dosgamer000 wrote:What would your reaction be? Would you be jumping out of your fleshy hides or would you be upset that it's not a remake of Blood 1? Also, about how many new posters and topics do you think this place would get in response to this news?
I would jump for joy at first, at least until they announced that a different direction was planned. At this stage of the game what a development house is really doing is mining a franchise, they would have rights to an established title, a good bet in this risk averse business climate. That's okay from our perspective as long as the franchise gets back as much as the devs take.

Notice how bethesda went to the trouble of advertising the new editor for doom4, an easy to use/ easy to learn editor. They want people mapping this time around because ID crippled doom3's editing abilities and stunted the franchise, gamers went right back to making 2.5d maps. For the long run it was bad for the market, not to mention the genre.

Hopefully any potential Blood reimaging team won't pull a DNF and burn bridges behind them for a quick buck.
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Doom 4 looking like Doom 3? More like Doom 4 looking like Doom1&2 with Doom 3 atmosphere. Did u watch the Welcome to Hell gameplay trailer?

A new Blood whatever would be awesome. It would never be exactly like the original because in the end it's all about money. And to make money you have to move on with the times to get new gamers to join in the fun. But at the same time you have to respect the wishes of the old gamers. It's a melting pot. But just because of this that doesn't mean it would include all of what dosgamer said they would throw in. Whoever would be making this would already know that handling this franchise would be extremely fragile and they would be walking a fine line through the entire development process. I don't think they would be that stupid. Just like id is doing with Doom. They got a lot to live up to. And they're not including a whole bunch of new gimmicks. They're keeping it very simple compared to the newer games of today. I think this is the way a new Blood should be handled. Keep it simple gameplay wise. Spruce up the art direction, show the story a bit more through gameplay or cutscenes, and keep the gameplay the way it was. Simple but with a more up to date logic behind it.

Or they could just turn it into a new farming sim for the IOS.
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@N0t_mINe: There have been a few mods for Doom 3 that actually were interesting to me. Or rather, mapsets. I don't not remember it clearly but I used to frequently watch a channel on YouTube that showcased primarily that years ago. A DNF but for Blood is the last thing anyone would want but at least Blood can never be a let down like that game was because it never entered a nearly eternal development cycle.

@VGames: I've honestly only seen bits of pieces of Doom 4's gameplay via WEBMs. I just seen the full actual thing now and it looks quite good. Much more promising now than I originally thought but the Cyberdemon at the end seems much like Gears of War. The textures and coloring of Hell also seems much too grey. It does look fun to play though, all the weapons feel right.

On to Blood, I don't expect too much from a new title if the miracle ever happens. Just keep the gameplay fast, the horror-comedy mixture balanced, Caleb's voice along with the Chosen's if possible, and of course throwbacks to both games but not so much that it screams "You see? It's almost a clone of the original one!" Blood 1 and Blood 2 are different games in terms of how they go about themselves. Blood 1 is about being more, for a lack of a better term, spooky and following the tale of a vengeful gunman out to destroy a demon worshiping cult in a land that's as incredibly weird as it is terrifying. Blood 2 is about him trying to just get by life in a world that's accelerated far beyond what Caleb could hope to reach. The man wants to forget the Cabal, forget Tchernbog, but Gideon is out to kill him. He meets his allies again in a way he had not intended and they all have to deal with each other while also fighting the cult (does not happen as much as it should've in-game but time constraints and such.) The sci-fi elements reach their max here with the floating cars and the dystopia of New Town being run by a corrupt corporation. Caleb was the chaser in Blood 1 and in Blood 2, he is now the chased.

For a new Blood game, they would have to find their own theme in the game world. Make it a reboot of B1 and you get the same style of the first and if it's a sequel to where B2 left off, you would be seeing alien dimensions along with destroyed and derelict city structures. Whatever happens, I'll still keep my hopes and also just don't forget the Chosen! From what little we got of them, I was satisfied and I wanted more. They mesh with Caleb's character just so much for them to go to waste.
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dosgamer000 wrote:@N0t_mINe: There have been a few mods for Doom 3 that actually were interesting to me. Or rather, mapsets. I don't not remember it clearly but I used to frequently watch a channel on YouTube that showcased primarily that years ago. A DNF but for Blood is the last thing anyone would want but at least Blood can never be a let down like that game was because it never entered a nearly eternal development cycle.
Doom3 comes off as one of those titles that are always liked but never loved. Now my impression might have more to do with the low quality editor and not the actual game itself, but it's the feeling I get.

As for the possibility of b3, I agree, it would have to capture a 2.5 vibe on a 3d engine. I can't really judge the latest crop of reintroduced shooters, but I sense they're only modestly replayable. Maybe we have a breakthrough with the SW sequel though.

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Doom 3 was okay for me. It doesn't do action-horror as well as Doom 64 did (which isn't primarily horror but has a strong ambiance and disturbing aura about it) but I didn't hate it. I think what happened was that the Doom fanbase went years without a new title and then up comes Doom 3 and the people who played it back then probably were still tinkering about with community offerings like wads and edits to really bother with it. No doubt the attitude of "the old way is always better" stuck with a few of them. But then again Doom 3 is much different than the games before it. The shotgun was weak but RoE's Super Shotgun made it much more bearable. The chaingun was okay and it felt incredibly clunky but when it worked it worked damn well. The plot with Betruger did it's job: giving the player a reason to go into Hell. Fan mods are acceptable and alot of them stand out if one chooses to browse through them (Shambler's Castle for example.)


The SW reboot reignited the spark in alot of BUILD players I noticed. If SW can get it's own game, so why not Blood? Well obviously in Blood's case the mission is much more harder but I enjoyed their enthusiasm. Regarding replayability, hopefully that won't be regulated to constant DLC extensions and we get four storylines for each Chosen one like Blood 2 might've had (this is assuming it's a continuation of the cliff-hanger in The Nightmare Levels.)
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