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Cultist not a Kultist

Posted: Fri Mar 11, 2005 05:33 am
by DustyStyx
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Note: the gun isn't rendering the proper skin there.

Re: Cultist not a Kultist

Posted: Fri Mar 11, 2005 09:28 am
by Willis
Cruaich wrote:Note: the gun isn't rendering the proper skin there.
You're fired!

Looking very good, my suggestions for improvement would be, broader shoulders (maybe its just a bad angle), and the hood needs to be less stiff

Probably both model changes, but still, thats my thoughts.

Posted: Fri Mar 11, 2005 10:13 am
by mouth
Looks cool. I like the marionette-like face.
But as we said on the Blood forum, his arms are too long, his legs too short.
And maybe his face is a bit too high (stretched).
But still, thumbs up! :)

Posted: Fri Mar 11, 2005 01:17 pm
by Number II
Is that a Tommy Gun drum magazine?

Posted: Sat Mar 12, 2005 12:38 am
by Daedalus
I'm not one to complain... but the guy on the left looks a little like he's made out of wood!

But I'd say I concur with all the above suggestions.

Posted: Sat Mar 12, 2005 02:23 am
by )))000(((
Head is stretched out
The arms are way too long
Tommy gun looks fake, bent, whaterver you want to call it ---
The face maybe should look more blouch fat more human...
The tip of the hood is too high 0- it is disobeying gravity!

Well ummm... that is all I see wrong...

Posted: Sat Mar 12, 2005 03:16 am
by Number II
But that's where they keep their multi-coloured pyramidal minions! That's why it's so defiant of Newtie.

Posted: Sat Mar 12, 2005 03:56 am
by Daedalus
Of course! Number II is right! Ph43r teh l33t pyr4m1d4l m1ni0|\|$!!!11

Posted: Sat Mar 12, 2005 05:49 am
by DustyStyx
okay... so... your saying "Not a Cultist"

Posted: Wed Mar 16, 2005 04:23 am
by RottKing
I think it looks good, it just needs a few adjustments is all.

Posted: Wed Mar 16, 2005 05:07 pm
by Number II
RottKing wrote:I think it looks good, it just needs a few adjustments is all.

Posted: Wed Mar 16, 2005 07:12 pm
by predator
Great to see this. I'm happy the cultists are progressing. :D

Yes, the arms are too long and you have to do something about the mouth - the guy looks like a 90 year old man without teeth. :wink:

But this is great progress. Cheers.

Posted: Thu Mar 17, 2005 12:15 am
by Kazashi
Ok, before you berate Cruaich any further, you should have a look at the model ingame, rather than in a viewer that distorts perspectives.

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The image has been brightened after the fact so that it can be seen clearer. Animation has barely begun, so this reference pose isn't even going to look as close to an original sprite as people might be expecting. The tommygun is obviously linked to the proper skin here (so if it looks bent then the pickup must be bent since they're the same mesh :P) Fortunately for Predator the mouth animates, so the cultist won't always look like a slack-jawed grandfather.

Some of the criticisms may be valid, such as the long face (which I had concerns about before). I don't know about the arms, since if they're shorter he'll have a harder time holding the weapon without clipping. Maybe they can be a bit shorter. The legs probably look like they're too short because, well, I don't know. Anyway, have a look at this image

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The head was modified i.e. squashed, and the legs were shortened (why? I have no idea why I did that, I should've done the opposite - having the model in the spread-leg pose doesn't help the view at all). But this pose is a bit more animated - the arms weren't modified in this case.

I don't have a problem with the skin as is, I think it looks great. But going from the last picture I posted (keeping in mind I'll extend the legs again), do the arms still need reigning in? Is the peak still too pointy? Is there anything else glaringly obvious (remembering that I've mentioned the legs already) that needs to be fixed?

Posted: Thu Mar 17, 2005 01:27 am
by Number II
Does the original cultists really grin? I think they look kind of p***.

Make the knee a bit more visible through the robe. :)

But yeah, it looks good.

Posted: Thu Mar 17, 2005 10:27 am
by Willis
Heres a clearer shot of each colored robe:
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sorry for the scale problems, they're really all the same size, don't worry! :)
And they're all holding the Tommy as a template, they'll have the correct weapons in the future.